Talk:Empire of Escharia

@Sikkeost According to announcements by julijajo#1312 in r-nat, the SC/Bard demands were for YA/the Last Bastion and Plagos to be independent and a Trillium partition of Raykara, as well as a border on Escharian expansion. Since no core Escharian land was ever in question, and having also heard the thoughts of OG Bards and SC members, their intentions were to limit Escharian expansion, not a partition or land grab. -- Windfall the  Wanderer  21:37, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@User:Windfall the wanderer It was my empire as you should recognize, I literally negotiated with them. I have the chats. They were also trying to seem neutral to the wider world. You also aren't dealing with subjectivity; the coalition literally broke their NAP to join the war for example. You are about as biased in trying to portray them in a good light. They probably fail to tell you of their own interests in grabbing land, such as with the border with Raykara. They initially literally wished for Escharia to be reduced greatly and all of her subjects taken from her even if most of them did not desire this (Bar Yimmu Audal). I had to deal with the negotiations that would have led to only about 1/3 of the Empire being lost starting at over 1/2 originally. They wanted to shatter the empire initially. Words like colonization outside of Yimmu Audal or Plagos also have no place. The Escharians didnt "Colonize" Raykara. The region was already Niedene bar maybe Oogrelon nor did we send any new people there. In that regard we are apart of the same native ethnic group. It would be like saying Bardonia colonized Aurons Peak. Youre painting the Empire as Imperialist in your rhetoric when in reality they were equal to the other powers of the day, sure we use words like carve up originally but that is accurate. We say people "Carved Up" China for example. Words like "Impede" also have no place when you're splitting about half of a country. Core lands were in question such as Vasterien. -SikkeOst